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Byler analysis
Ok so I was rewatching 4x09 and the one scene with the endgame couples came up and I noticed something.
Ok so if you look at each couple, they are very clearly divided despite the expected blocking of a scene with this gravity. I’ll break down the divided sections below. ⬇️
Section one: Jopper
So the section where they are is what I would call the clearest. The air and horizon look the least contaminated and the ground in front of them only has smaller cracks. So if you look in the background of the section you can barely make out a tower that resembles a radio tower, I’ll explain the significance of this in a bit. So I would venture to say their relationship is already established, has few problems, and is not heavily involved with the supernatural plot (similar to season one). Section two: Byler
Their section is sitting directly in the middle of the shot and the largest rift, has a red looking horizon, has a heart with lightning on top of them (as does Jopper and I will explain this later as well), the ground in front of them seems very affected by the rifts. Despite them being in the middle of the biggest rift it barely divides them. They also have a radio tower in the distance, very clearly in the middle of them (probably the clearest one in the shot). Overall they are very close and have the least interference in the shot. This signifies to me that they are very crucial to the story, are involved in the supernatural plot quite a bit, their arc focuses around their relationship, and figuring out where they belong.
Section three: El
So her section is directly in the middle of the biggest plume of smoke and there is no clear horizon in her shot at all. The largest rift is directly in front of her, no radio tower in sight. Instead on her horizon is a gap in the smoke surrounded by and emitting red light. She is very clearly alone except that mike is barely in her section and very far away and Johnathan and Nancy are further into the section and closer by a little. To me this means that in season five she is going to be the main character in the supernatural plot, she is going to be dating Mike but very briefly before they both end it, and then she is going to rely heavily on platonic relationships this season.
Section four: Jancy
Theirs is interesting, in the section with their heads (that’s what I’m counting as their section) there are multiple rifts and smoke plumes, the destruction looks bad, there is a helicopter in the sky, and there is a radio tower in the distance. They are close to El so I don’t think they will be off in their own story line like season one but they will have a slightly separated storyline. The helicopter is right in front of the radio tower symbolizing an obstacle or something in their way. Steve, the helicopter represents Steve. The helicopter played a big part in helping me understand the symbolism in this shot. So I would say that they are very crucial to El and the others and they are struggling with their relationship.
Ok onto the other things.
Heart clouds:
The heart clouds represent 2 things. One is a change in the relationship, this means for Jopper and Byler their relationships will change. Why these two and not Jancy? Well let’s start with Jopper. Jopper is an established relationship and they are adults and we are going to have a time skip so it is logical to assume there will be a wedding. Also maybe a more mature change in their relationship. For Byler they have been friends the entire show, and logically ( if you are able to see very obvious subtext) they will end up dating by the end of the show. The heart represents this change in relationship from friends to dating. Jancy might breakup and their relationship might be bumpy and need repairs but overall their relationship will not change. I at least think that they will end the series by them going off to some college together and very happy. They have not had a significant chance in relationship. That is why only Jopper and Byler have the hearts. Two is the hearts also represent charged scenes between the characters since they both have lightning coming out but that’s not as important as the change in relationship.
Radio towers:
The radio towers, these really tipped me off and made me want to do this analysis. Ok so the radio towers represent a future or destination of some sort. (If you all have any better ideas of what they represent feel free to share!) they are clearly placed in front of Jopper, Byler, and Jancy. Though Jancy has the helicopter in front. These represent happy endings for the characters since they are an end point on the horizon. Now El doesn’t have one and here’s what I think that means.
El’s lack of a radio tower and what I think that means:
So, El is very obviously positioned in the biggest smoke column, which is where the upside down is bleeding into Hawkins. She doesn’t have a radio tower or even a clear horizon. This to me means that, sadly, she is foreshadowed to either not survive or be stuck in the upside down somehow. Since the radio towers represent a future/ destination and she only has something from the upside down in her section, that’s why this foreshadows that. And also what Mille said about see El’s ending.
That’s it!! Wow that was a lot of typing. Let me know if anything is off or if I should change anything. If I get a little repetitive, sorry!! I have a problem with that. If I need to elaborate on anything I totally will js ask!!!
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Has anyone noticed that, at least in s4, byler dresses kind of like jopper? It's most noticeable in the end scene, where they're all on the hill overlooking Hawkins
Edit: i was gonna add this originally but forgot the word, & this is well known, but byler also parallels like all of the canon ships(lumax, jancy, jopper, etc) in smaller ways like this. Ex. the way scenes are framed, the emotion of scenes
No one asked but I did this on Twitter & Insta so here’s my Speak Now TV songs that remind me of my fave ships/characters 🫶
Mine - Ronance
I fell in love with a careless man’s careful daughter, she is the best thing that’s ever been mine
Sparks Fly - Ronance
You’re the kinda reckless that should send me running but I kinda know that I won’t get far
Back to December - Lumax
Wish I’d realised what I had when you were mine, I’d go back to December and make it alright
The Story of Us - S4 Jancy
This is looking like a contest, of who can act like they care less, but I liked it better when you were on my side
Enchanted - Ronance & Jancy
These are the words I held back as I was leaving too soon, I was Enchanted to meet you. Please don’t be in love with someone else
Long Live - Byler
Long live all the mountains we moved, I had the time of my life fighting dragons with you
Ours - Ronance
And it’s not theirs to speculate if it’s wrong, your hands are tough but they are where mine belong, and I’ll fight their doubt and give you faith with this song for you
Superman - Byler
And I’ll be okay, I always forget to tell you I love you, I loved you from the very first day
Electric Touch - Ronance
All I know is this could either break my heart or bring it back to life, got a feelin’ your electric touch could fill this ghost town up with life
When Emma Falls in Love - Nancy
‘Cause she’s the kinda book that you can’t put down, like if Cleopatra grew up in a small town
I Can See You - Ronance
I’ve been watchin’ you for ages, and I spend my time tryin’ not to feel it, but what would you do if I went to touch you now? What would you do if they never found us out?
Castles Crumbling - Steve
They used to cheer when they saw my face, now I fear I have fallen from grace
Foolish One - Will/Byler
Oh, you haven’t written me or called but goodbye screamin’ in the silence. And the voices in my head are tellin’ me why, ‘cause you got her on your arm and me in the wings. I’ll get your longing glances, but she’ll get your ring
Timeless - Jopper
I’m gonna love you when our hair is turnin’ grey, we’ll have a cardboard box of photos of the life we’ve made and you’ll say “oh my, we really were timeless”
"He should," John agreed. What he should say, John wasn't going to get into that. Especially only knowing this girl's side of the story. "And he probably will. That's what a good relationship is built on, right? Good communication?" Or not. Or maybe this was a rocky one. He didn't know.
"I think it'll go better than a letter that says 'Sorry you're so annoying'," he grinned. "There's no telling what she'll say or do, really. Hopefully she takes time to process and consider your words. She might not get over it right away, and she might not even tell your boyfriend. But looking like the bigger person is gonna benefit you more in the long run. Because if you keep trying to be the bigger person and all she does is continue to be shady and annoying, who's going to look worse to your boyfriend, right?"
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"Yeah, words can be difficult," he nodded along, already coming up with a few ways she could start her letter.
His eyebrows rose and he did his best to stifle his excitement. Oh, this was a good story, this was a fun time. "What a bitch, that's crazy!" John said like they'd been friends for years. He didn't even know her name yet. "Of course he did, what is it with guys doing that?" he shook his head.
"You're apologizing to her, yes? Because don't apologize to him--he needs to apologize to you," he said.
"For her, I would definitely start with something like, 'I need to address my actions the other day.' Don't start it with sorry because she won't listen to anything you have to say after that. Go over what you did, like, 'as you know, I got carried away and let my emotions get the better of me', because that sounds nicer than saying 'you pissed me off.' Follow it up with something like, 'that was immature and uncouth of me.' Then offer your 'sincerest apologies' and say that it was wrong of you to lash out and you'll do better in the future." he shrugged. "It's annoying but you're not technically admitting you were in the wrong or anything, and she gets to hear you say sorry. It's a win-win. And an extra win if your boyfriend hears about how kind and mature you were for writing an apology letter."
@pepper-doyle
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