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Speaking of Jr...
What are your headcanons of him? Even if it's limited?
Except for my last post?
I imagine Ben and everyone around that age group was fine and all
But kids who are like older then them so... Chip, Melody, Artie, Shang Jr and my oc's Ahmed, Jana and more grew up seeing the effects of the unitation of the kingdoms and the magic ban
Like they lived through it
So excluding chip (because he doesn't have a choice) all try to avoid Auradon and Auradon city in particular
So attending Auradon Prep was stressful for Shang Jr
He as I said before likes to cook but not very good at it but he is a bit better at baking
He likes to bake the chocolate chip cookies his mom makes when he is not home. It makes him feel closer to her
That's all for now ig...
Do you have any Lonnie plus family headcanons?
Okay let's see. Also they might be already canon or from other users that I've seen and dont remember. If that's the case let me know and I'll tag them
Also I added a little Jordan and Aziz there...
Lonnie, Aziz and Jordan grew up together
Either Jordan or Lonnie had a one sided crush on the other at around the age of 12
Aziz was the ultimate wingman for any relationship the other two had
Shang Jr is also childhood friends with one of Aziz's older sister
Speaking of Shang, he had his first tattoo secretly at the age of 15.
It was a dolphin tattoo because he was obsessed with the sea growing up
Shang also likes to cook but is not very good at it
Mulan's family love Li Shang so much
Li Shang always made sure he was there for both her kids
Shang Jr looks like Mulan the most
Mushu is very protective of both Shang Jr and Lonnie
And he is the overdramatic proud unce
LONNIE AND SHANG JR GREW UP WITH YAO, CHIEN-PO AND LING'S CHILDREN
Jordan was the first one to attend Auradon City Middle School and that ls where she met Ben
Lonnie and Shang Jr had all their education till their respective high school years in China
Then Shang went to high school in Sherwood Forest for the first year but got transferred to Auradon Prep because Auradon had a better Scholarship in fencing.
He shared a drom with Andrew Bjorgman (Anna and kristof's son)
He also told everything about Auradon Prep to Lonnie so she wouldn't have much hard time there because he was always underestimated by some royal kids
Well, so was Lonnie. Maybe more than Shang jr because at least the older was a man and it wasn't 'wrong' for him to fight
Lonnie however was ignored by many people
Because she was a girl and she should be 'graceful' and 'quiet' and 'ladylike'
And she shouldnt fight.
After couple of month Ben being the king hearted guy befriended him and that went on
Lonnie also has couple tattoos
Which gave her bonus points befriending the vk's
Mal doesn't like to get into a physical fight in Auradon not because she is incapable but she likes the others to underestimate her
The only person she fenced in Auradon was lonnie (before d2)
It was in the middle of the night when they bumped into each other and had ice cream in the kitchens
They were chatting then fighting came up which made mal offer to fence with her
Lonnie obviously accepted
That's why when they were rescuing Ben in d2, mal was a bit relieved Lonnie was there
Back to the family, both Shang Jr and Lonnie got their sass from their great grandmother, grandma Fa
That's it for now I guess...
In addition to my rant about Lonnie a second ago, as far as I am aware this is the only time the franchise acknowledges Lonnie's absence
What are your honest thoughts on Lonnie+Family?
Sorry for the wait, but I wanted to finish Lonnie's warrior sword so I will probably be focused on that
Anyways onto my answer...
I was liken 14-15 ish when I watched the first two films and I really liked her and I still do too but now I kinda grew up and had a chance to look into her character more and realised she wasn't really well written.
What is most upsetting for me is she could be a key point at any time in the movies but also in the books. But no piece of media in this franchise took that opportunity. Like she is there, yeah and she has some lines and stuff but nothing more. Shes in the back like literally any ak. Except for Ben and audrey. And we see audrey as a big character only in the last film.
I've seen people say that the movies especially are really mal centric and I agree, majority of the characters are just there.
Now I dont remember much about Lonnie in the books. It's been a while and I'm planning to reread them but I doubt she had any significant scenes for herself.
In Lonnie's warrior sword, which I literally just finished so it might be a bit too detailed,
First we had a memory with mulan, and I was so happy but that was the end of it. Now I think living up to the name of Mulan AND SHANG is a great plot point for her and her character but they couldn't do it well. Lost opportunity... but we have Mulan's name being mentioned at couple more places which all serve the 'living up to the name' and if the book was a bit longer they could explore it a bit better.
There is the matter of Li Shang. The matter is he is not there. Everyone ignored the man like they ignored Lonnie in the third movie. I would love to see some father-daughter bonding and we WERE ROBBED. so if anyone has any fic recommendations about Lonnie and Shang I would love that. Anyways, Shang in Lonnie's Warrior Sword was mentioned one (1) time.
"...sword fighting with her mother in the gardens, running laps around the palace with her father..."
That's it. And although I love the image of little Lonnie trying to keep up with her father while Shang purposely slows down for her is incredibly adorable, how would anyone think this would be enough to feed the fandom
Shang Jr is a whole other thing. Again I would love to see a relationship between Lonnie and Shang jr. And I also would like to see how filling up the name of Mulan AND SHANG would affect him. Because it would affect him as much as Lonnie.
Then there is the name situation. Firstly, I am not familiar with Chinese culture and I dont have anyone I can ask beside the internet so let me know if I need to include/exclude and/or change anything.
From what I've understood from the fandom, naming your child after yourself is very disrespectful so that is an issue. Honestly even if they were not gonna look into his name, all they needed to do was to search for some Chinese names and meanings. Like I could do that (and I am planning to cause there is no way I'm using Lil' Shang as a name in my version of descendants. Same goes with Lonnie. I did started to research about that but like Lonnie? Why? Naming with the same initials as your parent is a thing in the universe but by that logic they were supposed to do a name with m for mulan or s for shang, why did they go for L (I am assuming L is for Li but still) So they are nicknames given to them by Auradon and Sherwood Academy(was that where he was, I don't really remember)
For once I want Lonnie and Shang Jr (I am intentionally not calling him Lil' Shang cuz honestly between the two Shang Jr is not as disturbing to me as Lil' Shang) to be sassy. And that 100% came from grandma Fa. You know Mulan's grandmother. I want that woman to teach her great grand children things she wasn't supposed to. Like and she words and how to trick mushu or something.
Another point is (I've seen someone talk about it, I'll credit them if I can find it) the situation with Yi-Min. They grew up together with Lonnie and her cousins. Like Mulan saved China with these man of course their children are best friends. Also I love that she also competes in the Auradon warrior thing.
One more thing, I know it's already too long and I didnt have my fixation on Mulan and Mulan 2 yet so Lonnie and family are not people I've given much thought about but still....
We knew King beast had like all magical and non magical stuff collected in the museum but why? Like why would you disarm MULTIPLE KINGDOMS. I hate that man.
Also, in Lonnie's Warrior sword it says "... There it(Shan Yu's sword) could be watched over by the Imperial Council, who oversaw all official matters in the Imperial City, until Lonnie was old enough to inherit it." Why? Why does Lonnie inherit a council. Okay I know her parents saved China but why does Lonnie inherit a council. (Do I need to rewatch the mulan movies? probably)
Anyway... with the addition of the All-Knowing-One and her potential is also being lost... I will finish my rant here.
I hope I answered your question and I am sorry if it's too long
What kind of job do you think Jane from descendants would have as an adult and why?
Tbh I am not sure, I've seen people say she would replace her mother at being the headmistress at Auradon prep but I dont agree with that. I've also seen fics that she is some sort of event planner and that seems more possible to me.
But personally i think she might have a place in Ben's court? I've had this fic idea that after some point Ben replaces his council mostly with young heirs and/or younger representatives when they start taking more roles in their kingdoms. So Jane might have a place in there. Like his advisor or a representative of fae-kind (because Jane always studied theory of magic and after wicked world she started to practice it too and I cannot be convinced otherwise)
I think I came up with it mostly because I want Ben to fix how his father messed up the kingdom and Jane to help him because the society failed her. Also I get mal and Jane bonding over magic so...
Also she volunteers in vets with Carlos as much as she can.
I have never watched the black cauldron and I've recently realised that I have been reading his name wrong the whole time.
I thought it was honored king.
It was apparently not...
is... is this yen sid teaching weird science in dragon hall?
[The tourney team explaining how they won to the Sherwood team]
Aziz: you were prepared for our best!
Chad: But not to our dumbest
Herkie: and I am the dumbest there's ever been!
[Vk' first haloween in Auradon, trick or treating]
Lonnie, with a strategy: we could go to one place and get all the candy we could ever want
Carlos: we're going to a candy store?
Jane: no, its night time. Candy stores are closed
Jay, excited: WE'RE GONNA ROB A CANDY STORE?!
Hear me out Loki and Sigyn... but Scrooge McDuck and Goldie O'Gilt (especially dt17 version)
Lost opportunity :(
Every time Elon Musk does something stupid/embarrassing I always think to myself, “Dang. It’s a shame DuckTales is over, we could’ve gotten so many great Mark Beaks episodes making fun of this rich brat”
Where's Ben, did you leave him all alone? Sure he's cute but can he save himself?
-webby(ducktales) reacts to descendants 3 on YouTube
No webby. No he can't
All the werewolf songs are rge best and I will die on that hill
(Was expecting a little booboo Stewart cameo because of that song wynter sung tho)
Evie, Jay and Carlos teaching Ben how to be evil in d2: lying is the responsible thing to do
When Carlos and Jane first started dating Lonnie slipped out that Jane actually knows the flower language. Carlos trying to be thoughtful, learned it overnight (mostly) and made a bouquet. Only there was a flower that only grows with magic so he went to mal and maimed her til she had to grow the flower.
When Carlos gave the bouquet to Jane at first she was confused but then Carlos explained to her. There was a moment of silence followed by the warmest hug Carlos had ever got in his life
(Open the picture for better quality)
Face Claim: Eisha Applebaum
Age: 15 in d1 (same age with Carlos)
School: The Witch School
Yzma, wanting her daughter to follow her steps, raised Yzla to be a good politician
However Yzla doesn't like people to know that
She does not care about her mother and brothers obsessions with revenge
She dated with Reza for a while after she realized she is gay
She didn't tell her mother that. Not that Yzma would care at all but she didn't feel comfortable
Growing up she actually was really close with her older brother Zevon but they grew apart when he went to dragon hall
She thinks now Zevon doesn't want to even see her
That is one of the reasons why she went to the Witch School
Other than she actually liked witchcraft even tho she wasn't one
Yzla enjoyed messing around with potions
And she regularly meets with Hilary Westergaard (oc) about the potions that are used for healing
That's how se found out about the anti- heroes club
And she joined it
She got really mad at her brother about what he did in Auradon
She is friends with Harry Badun, Hermie Bing and Ginny Gothel
But her best friend is Emery Balthazar(oc)
Which makes Eddie like an older brother to her
When Claudine Frollo ran away from her father, Yzla along with Ginny helped her a lot
They became really close
And that's when Yzla realised she had a crush on Claudine
But never made a move because she knew the things Frollo had said to her about homosexuality and she didn't want to lose her
Yzla does not like Cj Hook
And she doesn't approve of her influence on Zevon
In return Cj doesn't like Yzla either
Going to the Witch school she didnt make many friends there.
She is a baddas
She throws poisons at people who messes with her or Claudine
So it's not really uncommon to see people with an odd hair color or something
When she came to Auradon it was Evies senior year and she introduced Yzla to chemistry
Which she instantly adored
If you ask her, Yzla would say that her favorite ak is jordan
I will probably edit and add things here
Years later Jane and Carlos settled down
Carlos: what would you do if one day I came home with six puppies?
Jane: what's in the box?
Jane: what's in the box, Carlos
Carlos: I think you know
Sometimes a family is a God, his daughter who can turn into a dragon and his now lizard ex wife
4. Ece Çeşmioğlu
I've seen people casting actresses for sigyn and I have got some options from Turkish actresses
1. Yasemin Allen
2. Farah zeynep abdullah
3. Afra Saraçoğlu
okay so a storyline where everyone and i mean everyone in auradon goes to therapy. all the isle kids but also the ak's. ben finds out about his daddy issues and his people pleasing tendency and that he puts his own happiness last tovthe point of turmoil. chad finding out is cockiness is to make up for deep rooted insecurity caused by a perfect mother and always being in his fathers shadow. jane finding out her easily manipulated nature came from her overbearing mother and that her insecurity came from popular girls opinions on her but also her own mother speaking of how pretty cinderella was and never her causing her to compare herself to cinderella and then everyone and that she's actually made a lot of progress etc.
feel free to add more, make new ones!
Omg I didnt know I needed this whole thing till I saw it.
wait I am suddenly obsessed with the concept of isle kids being absolutely baffled by organized sports in auradon
Mal: dad you're embarrassing me
Hades: Welcome to the rest of your life sweetheart
Diego De Vil: Everybody has a bad cousin that teaches you a few things. Like how to smoke, how to pick-pocket, how to wire a car, how to out tracks on your shoe, when you want to throw off a lie detector test.
Jace Badun: Which cousin was that? Surely it wasnt Carlos.
Diego De Vil: I am the cousin.
Harry Hook: sometimes I dont know if I love how much I fear Uma, or fear how much I love her
Jay literally: Shit...
Mal: Oh fuck
Carlos sighing: damnit evie
Just finished the song of achilles
On a totally unrelated note, I just cried my soul out for 2 and half hours. Bye bye my happiness for now I guess
Also...
Işık and Sinan from Love 101
Sinan is... well sinan and ışık is the one who is always there for him
HICCASTRID - HTTYD
I mean our boy hiccup had problems with his dad and grew without a mother and then there is his supportive girlfriend (wife now) Astrid
for example
LOGYN: MCU / NORSE MYTHOLOGY
Loki has the problematic past and Sigyn is the good girl who is always there for him
PERALTIAGO: BROOKLYN 9-9
I mean Jake has father issues. And Amy is the good girl who always be there for Jake.
JANELOS: DESCENDANTS
So we don’t have to talk about how bad the isle was, especially for carlos with Cruella so… and jane is the good auradn girl. They are my underatted babies
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SHIP LIKE THEM IN MIND, I’D LIKE TO HEAR
A book series that I could not a fandom of...
Please...